Monday, November 28, 2016

Battery again?



Battery Charging 14 Hours

6am - Scampy's new battery has been charging on the Battery Tender Jr
for 14-hours. And the Jr reports a red color indicator. This red indicator means "Not Completely Charged Yet!"

We on the TiogaRV Team are concerned about the condition of our Interstate battery. We have been using deep cycle batteries since we began RVing in 2003. Our years of experience tells us that this Interstate battery may be defective.

To make sure what the condition actually is, we are taking this battery back to the Interstate store where it was purchased in order to find out what's what.


Propane line project
Do you remember reading in our Blog about the challenge we had installing a quick disconnect fitting into Scampy's propane line? First one thing stalled us. Then another thing. Then another. Ad Infinitum!

The thing that stalled this project completely, was finding out that Scampy's copper propane tubing had a non-standard outside diameter! Isn't that a kick-in-the-head?

In the City of El Cajon, not far from our Nite Camp at John and Mimi's home, is Rick's RV Center. A repair outfit for RVs.

We intend to ask Rick's to take a crack at our stalled out propane line project!


2pm - NEWS!
Interstate Battery:
When we arrived at Interstate and informed them about the battery, at first the guy I was dealing with claimed that the battery was fully charged when we received it last Friday. But after he checked the voltage and specific gravity, he stopped making statements like these because they were obviously untrue. Then, he reversed course and went about installing a brand new battery.

Some of the cells on this replacement battery registered 1300 specific gravity [SG]. It does not get better than that. The remaining cells of the replacement were only partially filled with battery fluid! So the SG could not be checked on those cells. This guy did not even know how to fill the battery cells properly. Amazing!

Anyway, after driving around for awhile we parked and checked the specific gravity. 1300 on every cell! Perfect!

Appointment to replace propane line
We phoned Rick’s RV at 8am asking for an appointment to replace the copper tubing propane line that we Blogged to you about earlier. The guy we need to speak with was busy. We left a message.

We waited until 11am. The guy doing appointment scheduling at Rick's was apparently so busy, that he still had not phoned us. We found another shop that did that work, named RV Trailer Supply. We were told to drive over to check the job out.

We now have an appointment for 8:30am tomorrow at RV Trailer Supply. In addition to doing the propane line work, the Honda will be fitted out to charge Scampy’s battery when towing. THAT will be a very good thig!



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28 comments:

  1. your 3/8 copper pipe comes in 3/8 OD and 3/4 ID. you must tell them what size you want, OD (out side) or ID (in side)

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    1. Hi Wayne,

      In addition to your comment, 3/8 copper tubing has a spec that is sometimes used for water only. And as I understand it, a different spec for 3/8 gas and water. Confusing?

      We definitely do NOT use 3/4 copper tube in Scampy. OD or ID.

      Tioga George

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  2. George

    You keep saying it's "non-standard". I think what's really happening is that you're expecting a different "standard". Plumbing tubing is specified by ID while refrigeration tubing is specified by OD. You probably have the latter tubing but are using fittings for the former, as they're more common.

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    1. W3,

      I am not doing this propane work myself anymore. So, the issue is now mute.

      With that said, however, I came across two specs for the Outside Diameter of 3/8 copper tube.

      I have not encountered anybody who could explain what you have explained in your comment.

      Tioga George

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  3. Also to my previous...
    You said in your 11/23 blog that you were planning to use a compression fitting in the copper LP gas line. These are generally frowned on and are actually illegal for LP gas in some areas because they can easily develop leaks. Flare-joints are more common.

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    1. Hi W3,

      I am now not doing the propane line work myself.

      Tioga George

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  4. The Battery Tender Jr puts out 750mA and is intended to float a small motorcycle type battery that is already near a full charge. No way could it be expected to charge a large deep cycle battery, and certainly not in 12 hours! 12 x .75a = 9Ah, hardly enough to provide the result you are expecting.

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    1. Hi Tom,

      I too read that the Battery Tender Jr was designed for small motorcycle batteries.

      However, with that said, I myself accidentally discharged my Honda FIT battery this afternoon. And depleted that battery so much, that the engine would NOT turn over.

      This afternoon I used the Battery Tender Jr to charge Honda's discharged battery. Began at 5pm. By 8:15pm, the Tender Jr's LED was glowing green. Not yet 100% charged. But close!

      Tomorrow I'll put the Tender Jr back on the Honda FIT to top the battery off. Whatta yah think?

      Tioga George

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  5. Tom is right, a Battery Tender is not designed to CHARGE a battery but to maintain it. About $30 will buy a Schumacher 8 or 10 amp charger at a big box store.

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    1. Hi Squire,

      My experience only today conflicts with your comment.

      My Battery Tender Jr in only 3.25 hours, took my Honda FIT battery from a Not Turning Over Engine condition to green lite.

      That means 80% of full charge, as I understand it.

      Tioga George

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    2. You can fill a swimming pool with a coffee cup but it is not the right tool.

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  6. Agree with Tom and squire. The battery Tender Jr is not designed to charge up a full size battery like that. It's simply a maintenance charger, like something you would keep attached when storing a battery.

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  7. Tom and squire are right. Your device is intended to keep a charged battery in a continued state of charge, not to charge a dead or partly dead battery. You need a regular battery charger to charger and your Battery Tender to maintain it. Sorry George.

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    1. Croft,

      Tom is right.

      Squire is right.

      Kevin is right!

      And you Croft, are also right.

      Everybody is right!

      What a wonderful thing it is to be right!!

      Tioga George

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  8. Man. A lot of information here. You are lucky to have such intelligent readers.

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    1. Hi Dirk,

      Yes! I am sooooo lucky to have Readers who are sooooo right that it is almost impossible to comprehend how right they truly are.

      And remember Dirk, "MIGHT MAKES RIGHT!"

      Tioga George

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  9. I made a note not to use an Interstate battery supplier in San Diego.

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    1. Hi John,

      You are most right of all the right. A truly right, right!

      And no other has been more right than your right to be right.

      Tioga George

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  10. After reading about Crofts experience with Costco batteries I think that's where I would go from now on.

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    1. Hi Don,

      Like your comment, because you too are right! 😎

      Tioga George

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  11. FYI

    Leaving flooded battery cells depleted of water with plates exposed to air for even a short time damages them. This battery supplier sounds kind of iffy.

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    1. W3,

      You too are really right!

      Tioga George

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  12. George can you tell me I'm right too?

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    1. Jeff,

      You are sooooo far right, that you are to the left of right! 😎

      Tioga George

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  13. George you are so funny. I just love your sense of humor.

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    1. Dear Dirk,

      Amazing that you figured out that I was making big joke. No! Not joke!

      Dirk, you are wrong. BUT, you are to the right of wrong! So do not be concerned about being wrong.

      Tioga George

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  14. You are HILARIOUS George and I know I'm right!

    Joan

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