Monday, January 15, 2018

Red tape


Too Much Hassle

6:15am:
Yesterday evening, I received an email from a Reader who informed me that I needed a Mexican vehicle importation permit for Scampy and Trรกnsito.

In researching this permit on online, it became clear to me that I did not like the hassle and red tape needed to obtain this permit.

Internet hassle
It is a pain when my internet connection gets difficult. That's been happening a lot lately. Yesterday evening, I spent more than 3-hours trying to make a little Blog post and reply to Reader's  comments.


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6:42am:
Not going to Mexico
Because of these hassles, I'm coming to the conclusion that it is not in my best interests to enter into Mexico at this time.






Nite Camp Location Map
Elevation: 237 feet



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22 comments:

  1. George,
    It's probably a wise decision on your part. At our age we don't need hassles that are created by others.

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  2. There are Five criteria's for you to get into Mexico with your vehicle and RV
    Four of them you comply with when you signed up for your Mexican insurance
    So where is the hassle???

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    1. George doesn’t want to scrape the MAGA bumper sticker off Scampy.
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  3. Sorry to hear that George. The permit for Scampi is for 10 years just like Ms Tioga. The car permit you have to get every year. It requires a deposit which is refunded when you turn it in turning to the US. And the tourist cards, also Mexican insurance. And your passport. The big change for you is two vehicles. Not that big a deal if you have your registrations. I forgot it had been awhile since you've been here and that you needed two permits.

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  4. George it's not like you to give up. Ask those questions at the immigration office and perhaps you can get the Vehicle Information for Mexico. Shouldn't be that hard to find at the border. Sometimes doing things on the internet is more of a hassle than stepping into the office to get things done. That way you can ask lots of questions i.e. what do I need for my vehicle and trailer, etc.?

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  5. George, take a look at these two sites, which may be helpful. If you need the temporary permit, it looks like you can do it online via the second site.

    https://www.mexpro.com/mexico/rv-vehicle-import-permit.html

    https://www.banjercito.com.mx/registroVehiculos/#

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  6. George— the rules haven’t really changed since the last time you were in Mexico (although were easier since you had your “engine vehicle” already in your Class C RV). To go south of Sonora, you need a 10-yr RV permit for Scampy (around $50 bucks US), and a 6-month car permit for Transito. The car permit is the hassle, but not much. If you have a credit card, it’s much easier. The $200-300 deposit is charged to your credit card when you get your permits at the border. When you leave Mexico, be sure to stop at Mexican Customs’ Banjercito booth and have them remove your car sticker. Within 2 days, you’ll see a credit on your credit card for the $200-300 deposit you originally paid.

    Probably the bigger cost difference from old days of being in your Class C would be the cuotas (tolls). Transito/Scampy’s extra axles make those tolls almost double vs. a single vehicle.

    All that said, for a short trip down into mainland Mexico, it’s probably cheaper to fly, rent a car or van, and stay at a hotel or airBnB, than be towing an RV. But remember— Baja and Sonora require no permits! Very easy to go to San Carlos, Rocky Point, and Baja with just Mex Insurance!

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  7. Hi George - So sorry about the hassles that you definitely don't need. Your decision might be for the best though. I've been worried that your legal issues in Oregon might have some sort of negative issues for you crossing the border into MX or back into USA. I'm only familiar with Canadian border entries, so not sure what MX might be like. But if it causes more hassles, you definitely don't need that either. Maybe I was worried unnecessarily. Lynn in Kingston NY

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  8. It is no hassle George. You stop at Kilometer 21 and buy your permits. There is always parking, the cost is very little and one of the fees is actually a deposit that you get back when you leave Mexico. The only thing you need is your passport and registration papers for the car and trailer. The whole process takes an hour at most.

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  9. We enter Mexico every year at Nogales with a RV and car. It takes about 45 minutes at Kilometer 21 to get the 10 year RV and 180 day car permit. If you have your vehicle title, drivers license, vehicle registration and passport and have copies of them, you won't have any hassles. Just remember to return the car permit when you leave Mexico at kilometer 21 to get your deposit back.
    Hope you don't miss enjoying Mexico and it's wonderful people and great weather because of a short delay at the border.
    Bob

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  10. Dear George, sorry you are not going. We do the TIP, at km 21, south of Nogalis. We pay by CREDIT card, then turn it in at the same place. The refund is quick.

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  11. I can understand your point of view, but I think you would love going back to Mexico, people would enjoy seeing you, and on top of that, you're a pretty popular guy with a very active blog. JMHO

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  12. I'm a big fan of listening to your gut. If your guts telling you this isn't the right time to go... Listen.

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    1. Gosh, finally a voice of reason here. Do what you want to do George. You don't need to explain anything nor do you need to get other people's approval. It's none of their business.

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  13. There is no hassle at all George. Very simple. We just processed 12 RV's and 24 people and we were done in under two hours.

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  14. Hi, George. If you're not comfortable with going to Mexico right now, hope you'll just relax and enjoy other adventures. You are "free to be" and can always go later...or not. Just keep finding joy in the now of today!

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  15. You can do it, George. Red tape won't stop you if you are determined...

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  16. I'm a big fan of gut feelings too but I am following Kevin and Ruth's travel blog to Mexico and I see they had no problems whatsoever. I agree with living.boondocingmexico that people would enjoy seeing you...especially long time friends you made in Mexico.

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  17. Whatever your decision....take care.

    Barbara

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  18. Coming into Mexico via Lukeville is a hassle. This past year there have been changes made as to where to pick up your papers. The last few years leaving Mexico via Lukeville required stopping in two places, one to return the car permit and the other to get your passport stamped and return your tourist card. This year it appears that even more changes have been made.

    We only ever enter via Nogales but we do exit via Lukeville.

    We will miss seeing you in Mazatalan but then you just might fly down. So many great airfares these days.

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